Will There Be A Happy Ending for "The Princess & the Frog"?
Published June 04, 2009 @ 06:13AM PT

New York Times media reporter Brooks Barnes talks about the controversies surrounding, Disney's upcoming film The Princess and the Frog in this week's Sunday New York Times. While it is the first animated Disney film to feature a Black princess, there are concerns that the movie may perpetuate stereotypes about African-Americans:
Like her predecessors, [Tiana] is a strong-willed songbird (courtesy of the Tony-winning actress Anika Noni Rose) who finds her muscle-bound boyfriend against all odds.
To the dismay of Disney executives - along with the African-American bloggers and others who side with the company - the film is also attracting chatter of an uglier nature. Is "The Princess and the Frog," set in New Orleans in the 1920s, about to vaporize stereotypes or promote them?
After viewing some photographs of merchandise tied to the movie, which is still unfinished, Black Voices, a Web site on AOL dedicated to African-American culture, faulted the prince's relatively light skin color. Prince Naveen hails from the fictional land of Maldonia and is voiced by a Brazilian actor; Disney says that he is not white.
"Disney obviously doesn't think a black man is worthy of the title of prince," Angela Bronner Helm wrote March 19 on the site. "His hair and features are decidedly non-black. This has left many in the community shaking their head in befuddlement and even rage."
ALSO under scrutiny is Ray the firefly, performed by Jim Cummings (the voice of Winnie the Pooh and Yosemite Sam). Some people think Ray sounds too much like the stereotype of an uneducated Southerner in an early trailer.
While in recent years Disney has attempted to bring diversity to their films--Mulan, Pocahantas, and Aladdin comes to mind - they will never quite escape the racist images of the black crows from Dumbo or King Louie from The Jungle Book, or even Song of the South . According to the article, Disney has done many focus groups and showings to African American audiences:
Few people outside the company have seen footage of the movie. Among them are consultants like Oprah Winfrey, whom Disney asked for input on the racial aspects of the film and was cast as Tiana's mother. (Movie theater owners and members of the N.A.A.C.P. have also been shown scenes, and the reactions, according to a Disney spokeswoman, were "extremely positive.")
Even though there has been lots of criticisms about the characters themselves and also New Orleans as the film's setting, some Black parents are hopeful about having a female Disney character that their daughters can enjoy:
Donna Farmer, a Los Angeles Web designer who is African-American and has two children, applauded Disney's efforts to add diversity.
"I don't know how important having a black princess is to little girls - my daughter loves Ariel and I see nothing wrong with that - but I think it's important to moms," she said.
"Who knows if Disney will get it right," she added. "They haven't always in the past, but the idea that Disney is not bending over backward to be sensitive is laughable. It wants to sell a whole lot of Tiana dolls and some Tiana paper plates and make people line up to see Tiana at Disney World."
The movie has not yet been released and while I understand some of the criticisms, I'm not sure if I'm ready to write off the entire movie as another racist depiction of Black life and culture. I would hope that Disney will have more individuals and organizations than Oprah and the NAACP watching the footage as it gets closer to completion. Given that it is set in New Orleans, I can only hope that the director and his team has spent time researching New Orleans culture and has incorporated that into the way they adapt the story of the Frog Prince to images of the city during the 1920s.
I also worry about the use of the "princess meme" in Disney stories and other stories we tell our girls. Sure, it's great to finally have a Black girl starring in an animated Disney film, but how positive can the image be if it's just another dainty, helpless princess waiting to be rescued? And finally, with Anika Noni Rose as the voice of Tiana, it'll be interesting to see how Disney tries to create positive image of Black girls and what that will look like to the movie going public.
Only time can tell whether The Princess and the Frog enjoys a happy ending in the eyes of critiques, parents and young children everywhere.
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I heard that Tiana also discovers she needs to find a balance between her career as a chef and her love life to be happy. Do you know if that's true? If so, what an awesome message for all girls, African American or not.
Posted by Amanda Kloer on 06/04/2009 @ 07:32AM PT
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There hasn't been much real details about the storyline of the movie--it's one of the reasons I pause at calling it racist right off the bat.
I will say that Disney and other companies have made a pact with the State of Louisiana to bring more positive attention to the state and its culture...it's possibly that the company _is_ doing its homework.
Posted by Loryn Wilson on 06/04/2009 @ 11:10AM PT
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Do you really think Disney can "never quite escape the racist images of the black crows from Dumbo or King Louie from The Jungle Book, or even Song of the South"?
I don't have a big stake in this movie one way or another, but it strikes me as just the sort of thing a company does to put such mistakes behind it.
Warner Bros. animations once featured some horribly bigoted caricatures. People now understand them as artifacts of a much more racist past in this country.
Posted by Emily Gertz on 06/04/2009 @ 08:37AM PT
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Many people perceive Disney with the past images in mind--so it doesn't surprise me that some have called the movie racist or offensive...As I said above, if Disney is connecting with people from the African-American and the New Orleans communities then perhaps they are heading in the right direction.
Posted by Loryn Wilson on 06/04/2009 @ 11:13AM PT
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Why do people still blame a company for making mistakes in the past? Disney reflects cultural tendencies from the time movies are made. I think what matters is that they are trying to be sensitive and better.
Now, I still don't like Disney because they know their merchandise is made in sweatshops and they don't care about that. But that's a topic for the Fair Trade blog.
Posted by Juan Portillo on 06/04/2009 @ 01:15PM PT
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Disney's more than the average company -- it's one of the most powerful myth makers of modern times. And the company knows it, too.
Posted by Emily Gertz on 06/04/2009 @ 07:10PM PT
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They are powerful trend setters, I agree.
They're first and foremost a company, and they are going to base most of their decisions on what will sell and increase the value of the company and make the shareholders rich. That is all they care about. That is why their toys and clothing is made in sweatshops. And that is why they are having focus groups to make sure this movie is a hit and not labeled as racist or sexist.
Hopefully they'll do what is right not because they believe in it, but because all of us will pay to see the movie only if it depicts people in a fair and true way.
If they notice discussions like the ones going on in here, they will make sure to make the movie right. So it's a success in terms of profits.
Posted by Juan Portillo on 06/11/2009 @ 12:38PM PT
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I think it would be great if the prince is white. That would help erode another stupid rascism based stereotype. People do not need to fall in love and/or marry within their own race.
Posted by Charlie Reed on 06/04/2009 @ 12:17PM PT
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I wonder if by trying too hard to make the princess black and set it in New Orleans, they are carelessly and mistakenly making a caricature of black culture?
Also, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with stereotypes. It's one way to understand the world. The danger arises when we assume EVERYONE who looks a certain way has to act a certain way.
Posted by Juan Portillo on 06/04/2009 @ 01:17PM PT
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I totally agree. I've experienced the dirty looks, name calling, horrible restaurant services etc....
the crime: my prince was not black:(
Posted by Etrangere M on 06/05/2009 @ 11:52AM PT
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This is crap! Does it really matter what the skin color is? Does is matter who voices the character? People can be so bone headed sometimes! This just pisses me off. Skin color is just the pigment melanin in your skin. That's it. Inside, we're still the same people. Racism is just an excuse to nag about something. America can be so screwed up sometimes. People need to face the real facts like the economy and global warming. Not which skin color is better!
Posted by S A on 06/04/2009 @ 04:19PM PT
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I don't think that we are just nagging when we talk about racism. It is a real issue that still exists today. I agree it is not about which skin color is better, thats not at all what this post was about... its about equality, and until equality is reached within humanity then how do you expect us to deal with "real facts" like the economy or global warming. If you think that that racism is not a real issue and that people just want an excuse to nag I believe that you are horribly misinformed!
Posted by Ashley Chapman on 06/05/2009 @ 09:10AM PT
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Disney's track record on racism is sad. One of the most offensive movies (for me) is Peter Pan - the portrayal of the Natives is sickening. Especially the song "What makes the red man red". My son was given this movie as a gift and after we watched it together, I was disgusted & frustrated. We try so hard, as parents, to teach our children as best we can, only to have it all negated in one movie because of the "Disney" logo.
Posted by Lisa Smolen on 06/05/2009 @ 07:13AM PT
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I agree there is nothing inherently wrong with stereotypes they happen naturally, however it is one way that we begin to place boxes around people and create belief systems. From these stereotypes we can start believing that all black people or all women or all men are one way or another. This is dangerous ground and is how gender roles get placed on us. We are all human but each individual person is different and I think it is important to look at things critically and keep our belief systems in check. I like this post for bringing up important questions we should ask ourselves about this movie but I do agree we should not keep blaiming a company for its mistakes in the past. However, it is speaking up that helps create communities that don't allow further harmful mistakes like those in the past. We don't just forget about what has been done but we can hope for the best.
Posted by Ashley Chapman on 06/05/2009 @ 09:04AM PT
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Are we being racist for making a huge deal about this movie?
If the protagonist was white, we'd still be arguing there are no black princesses.
Also, have we stopped to consider how the black community feels about it? This princess seems like she's going to be "white washed" (I'm not from the US, so I'm sorry if that term is offensive, I'm not sure). I know a couple of black girls who are discriminated against because they don't "act black enough", and are labeled as "sellouts" by their family and friends. They are ridiculed for "acting white", which is ridiculous because they're not doing anything wrong, nor are they trying to be white. They just adhere to the normal, general American culture that all of us immigrants adapt to.
Anyway, my point is, do you think movies like these kind of impose or try to propagate what would be considered the "appropriate" culture/behaviour that other races should adopt?
I know it happens within the communities of minorities, too. Like I said, black people tease others they consider sellouts. I'm not Mexican, I'm from Central America (born and raised) and I've been outcasted a few times because I don't act "mexican enough" or "hispanic enough" and it really gets tiring. It's almost like a group of people are trying to tell me how I should act, which is not the way I want to act. Does this movie do the same by telling the black community: "this is how a black princess should act"?
Does all of this make sense?
Posted by Juan Portillo on 06/11/2009 @ 12:27PM PT
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Juan, I was thinking along those same lines as I was reading the post. It's a fine line to walk... if they make the princess "act black," then Disney's being racist. But if they make her act just like Ariel and Wedny and Cinderella, then they've "white washed" the character and she's "not black enough" and that's also going to draw criticism.
It's almost like they'll be called racist for using the stereotypes, but they'll be accused of forcing "the white norm" on African-American girls if they do not use the stereotypes. You can't please everybody all the time, so you're always going to tick somebody off...
As much as I love the Disney princess movies (at least the ones from when I was a doe-eyed wanna-be princess), I would love to see Disney use female characters of all shapes, sizes, and colors in non-princess roles.
Posted by Criss Cox on 07/03/2009 @ 11:01PM PT
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How about Tyler Perry?(meet the Browns/ Madea?)
Hypocrisy and the black community, never cease to amaze me!
Posted by Etrangere M on 06/05/2009 @ 11:47AM PT
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Sereotypes can be the seed of prejudice, and should be carefully guarded against. Incidently My favorite one to give the rediculous prize to is the "fried chicken and watermelon" one. By these standards I am guessing over 99.99% of Americans must be of African descent.
Posted by Charlie Reed on 06/05/2009 @ 12:23PM PT
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oops! meant to reply to charlie Reed's comment, regarding the white prince
Posted by Etrangere M on 06/05/2009 @ 05:28PM PT
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Who cares? It is a damn cartoon. No one cares if you stereotype a white person. And either way it is freedom of speech. I have plenty of African American and Asian friends, but are they weak enough to be offended by a DISNEY movie that is going to blow either way? NO.
Posted by Joseph Craig on 06/06/2009 @ 10:54AM PT
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I think it is incredibly insensitive of you to say that those who might be offended by this would be weak. You cannot know what any individual has experienced and if someone is offended by this they have every right to be. You should try to think with a little more compassion on this issue.
Posted by Ashley Chapman on 06/09/2009 @ 10:06AM PT
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Ashley,
I think that "insensitive" is not quite the word to describe my feelings towards this issue (if you want to call it an issue.)
Watching a film is personal choice. There are plenty of films full of stereotypes and racism that you have the choice to watch. From what I have learned about this movie, it is not necessarily racist, but contains some stereotypes of African Americans.
Racism and stereotypes are two separate things. Racism is prejudice towards a group of people because of their 'race'; a stereotype is a generalization - something that makes us human. A lot of stereotypes are accurate, and this is really what offends people. But without generalizations and stereotypes that appear mean but are actually true, we wouldn't be human! We generalize everything. Right wing Americans consist primarily of white people, and we associate them with the south. This is a stereotype; a generalization. A lot of African American people like fried chicken; this is true, but so do a lot of white people. That does not make it not true. White people tend to like overplayed rock & roll. Asians are good at math. You could call these racist stereotypes if you feel the need to be offended by them. But I have nothing against anyone. I am a strong spiritual believer in the equality of all men. Race does not really make us different. We are all humans sharing a conscious experience on earth. This is the truth. And all the other stuff that comes after is what makes us human, and with that comes stereotypes, racism, war, greed, hatred, violence, gangs, things that make us feel powerful.
As I said before, I have African American friends, some who are gang-members, some who are not. None of them would be offended by something so silly. This is a movie about an african american princess, so there better be accurate representations of african americans.
PS.
What exactly does an individual have to experience in their life in order to say that a disney movie (holding stereotypes which could be true) offends them?
This is not a legitimate topic for change.org
Posted by Joseph Craig on 06/10/2009 @ 02:04PM PT
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These movies are teaching children how to think and interact in the world even if just implicitly. It is a big deal. It would not be a weakness but a strength to question and look critically at what our children are watching!! They are the future and it is important to understand what messages are being taught to them through movies and all kinds of media.
Posted by Ashley Chapman on 06/08/2009 @ 09:23AM PT
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Didn't we all grow up watching racist movies and TV shows? And we're doing ok too.
Sheltering children too much can be dangerous. If we let them watch some of these movies and then engage in dialogue with them, we can help them understand how the world works.
Obviously, if we let movies and TV raise our children, then they will grow in a really messed up way. However, if we let them experience life and help them understand life, we should be OK.
Posted by Juan Portillo on 06/11/2009 @ 12:15PM PT
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We did grow up watching racist movies and TV, and many of us are NOT "doing ok" (see the comments in this and any other blog to come across grossly racist, sexist, ignorant and offensive ways of thinking).
I agree that you cannot shelter your children from everything. They have to see and experience the real world from the beginning, but there is enough hate and racism and ugliness as it is without putting it in children's movies, especially Disney movies. There are plenty of opportunities for parents to explain to children what kind of behavior is appropriate through real-life experiences, or through the old movies (I adore Peter Pan, but I had never thought of its portrayal of the Native American characters. I will probably still watch this movie with my children, but will take that opportunity to talk about those stereotypes and engage in that dialogue).
I strongly agree with you that we should not let TV and movies raise our children, but children will grow up and go to friends' houses and see things we may not want them to see, and they'll see things when the parents will not be there to engage in those dialogues. We can't shield them from everything, but we can ask that material targeted to children is clean and appropriate.
Posted by Criss Cox on 07/03/2009 @ 11:16PM PT
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I was just trying to make a point. I know a lot of people are not doing OK, I just meant us (the people writing here) who understand what's going on, we are aware of racism and we're trying to do something about it.
Kids will always be exposed to something we do not agree with, but as long as we guide them and communicate with them often and correctly, then they should be fine. I know when I have children I'll try to engage in deep conversations with them from an early age. That's how I grew up.
Peter Pan is messed up, though, so I understand how it's important to make sure children are not bombarded with messed up ideas.
Posted by Juan Portillo on 07/04/2009 @ 01:36AM PT
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I personally think it is incredibly racist that there is such a reaction to a black princess in a disney movie! I want to live in a world where it doesnt matter what color skin a character has!
Posted by alyssa dockter on 07/01/2009 @ 02:06PM PT
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Cultural change takes a long time to happen, it happens over generations. Hopefully when I have children it will all be a lot better.
Posted by Juan Portillo on 07/04/2009 @ 01:37AM PT
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