Spotted: More Sexist Behavior In Tech World
Published June 12, 2009 @ 12:25AM PT
Check out this description over at Geek Girls Guide by Courtney Remes, a creative strategist with more than a decade's experience in the interactive world, about yet ANOTHER atrocious presentation (remember this one) given at a recent technology conference in Minneapolis called Flashbelt - it's time for the sexism in technology to end!
[Trigger Warning]
Ok, so, I want to share this experience with you and get your take on it.
I have been attending only the afternoons of Flashbelt this year because I didn't want to take the full days off - and because in years past (I think I've been to at least three others) the afternoon keynote is totally mindblowingly talented and innovative and has provided me with that out-of-the-ordinary experience that temporarily removes you from your everyday routine and inspires you to be more creative. In short, I wanted to be inspired.
Yesterday's afternoon keynote is this guy named Hoss Gifford - I believe his major claim to fame is that viral "spank the monkey" thing that went around a few years back. Highlights of his talk:
- He opens his keynote with one of those "Ignite"-esque presentations - where you have 5-minutes and 20 slides to tell a story - and the first and last are a close-up of a woman's lower half, her legs spread (wearing stilettos, of course) and her shaved vagina visible through some see-thru panties that say "drink me," with Hoss's Photoshopped, upward-looking face placed below it.
- He later demos a drawing tool he has created (admittedly with someone else's code) and invites a woman to come up to try it. After she sits back down, he points out that in her doodles she's drawn a "cock."
- Then he decides he wants to give a try at using the tool to draw a "cock" (he loves this word) - and draws a face, then a giant dick (he redraws it three times) that ultimately cums all over the face.
- A multitude of references to penises and lots of swearing - and also "If you are easily offended, fuck you!"
- And then, to top it off, a self-made flash movie of an animated woman's face, positioned as if she's having sex with you, who gradually orgasms based on the speed of your mouse movement on the page.
You know, I like to think of myself as a pretty open-minded and easy-going person, but I was shocked that this was considered appropriate material for a conference about innovative developments in the world of flash and the greater creative field. And that I'd paid to see this. And that a number of people laughed at his jokes - perhaps because probably 90-95% of the people there were male. Having been a computer science major in college and a programmer for the last 9 years, I'm using to being the minority in these sort of development environments, but this was the first time I really felt like it was a boys' club. A boys' club where "girls" could hang out, but they are ultimately considered nothing more than objects of sexual gratification.
I checked Twitter (hashtag #flashbelt) to see what the responses were. Here are some notable remarks:
- Fonx is reading the #flashbelt rants on Hoss offending the ladies w/ a few swear words & a penis drawing - r u really that prudish & sexist?
- nthitz lol @hoss69 "If you are easily offended, fuck you" #flashbelt
- livenootrac Ladies of #flashbelt , I am sorry for the Hoss preso, but in the flash community he gets a pass, kinda like Don Rickles - that's just Hoss.
- CujoJpn @livenootrac And there were many ladies at #flashbelt who were offended by Hoss' Preso some were thick skinned and took it as is.
So, if you didn't like it then
a) you are a prude - and sexist (?)
b) fuck you
c) suck it because Hoss gets a pass here in the boy's club known as "the flash community" and
d) you are a wimpy girl who isn't strong enough / man enough / "thick-skinned" enough to deal with it.Uh? Aren't we in 2009? Do we have to "deal with" shit like this still? I just did a "Mad Men" mini-marathon the other day and one of the common themes is men being total dicks to women and women crying in the bathroom because they can't speak out about it. I remember thinking "Boy, I'm glad I didn't live then." And yet you can see the backlash you get if you speak about this sort of thing, NOW.
Since yesterday I've been thinking a lot about this, the psychological and social and gender things involved, what it means, what to do about it, etc. I did immediately write to the director and creator of Flashbelt - and he apologized and said he and I were on the same page and wanted to talk to me about it more. But I also felt like I wanted to continue a conversation with other women like you, get your take on it, find out if you think I'm just being a baby and too sensitive or what. To me, this is totally unacceptable.
Courtney
P.S. I forgot to mention Hoss' subsequent tweet on the subject:
Some hated it, more loved it - girls AND boys. Apologies to those offended, but I'll take raw emotion over indifference any day. #flashbeltP.P.S. And finally, this was my favorite tweet (from another woman in attendance):
dlicht Thanks for the Tweets on Hoss' presentation tonight...they serve as a good filter on who NOT to give my phone number to! #flashbelt
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Appalling ... hopefully this is such an egregious example that the outcry over this will continue to build momentum for change. To the conference organizer's credit, he quickly took ownership of his failure, apologized, and is working with people on a follow-on response. We shall see.
The comment thread on Courtney's post is really worth reading, and so is the #prosnotprudes hashtag. There are as always some apologists, but the vast majority of people of all genders do see this as a problem -- encouraging!
Posted by Jon Pincus on 06/12/2009 @ 12:35PM PT
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Shad's Support change in the tech field on Puny Blog talks about Giga Girls, a technology program for school age girls, and makes the excellent point that "If 10% of the people who are outraged by recent controversy and lack of women in tech decided to be proactive in supporting programs like Holly’s …things would change." Indeed. He's got some specific suggestions to boot.
Posted by Jon Pincus on 06/12/2009 @ 01:14PM PT
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Wow this is HORRIBLE.
Although, I may be able to offer some insight as to why many tech guys are like this.
I have several male friends that work in the tech industry, and who have always had a passion for computers, programming, etc. These friends exhibit very similar behavior to the asshole you're talking about. These kinds of guys (not all but many) grew up without really having female friends. Because of this, once they grew up, women are these "foreign" beings to them. They don't really care about them, and in order to feel more "manly" they talk about them as sexual objects. These kinds of losers probably spend a lot of time watching porn (the only naked bodies they ever see) and that is the only opinion they end up having of women.
I am also very certain about my theory because one of them has even told me: "wow dude, I really admire the fact that you can be friends with women without wanting to get into their pants. I honestly cannot see a woman without thinking of her as a piece of meat". And I repeated this verbatum.
Very, very sad. Inexcusable, too. But they are losers without any social skills who are trying to appear more manly than nerdy and can't help but be dicks.
Must be tough being them, they are probably rejected by women all the time.
Posted by Juan Portillo on 06/12/2009 @ 11:39PM PT
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