No More Excuses for All-Male Panels
Published June 27, 2009 @ 11:40AM PT
Watch Shireen Mitchell (@digitalsista) provide a few tips to those who find them in the quandary of an all-male technology panel. The video is in response to Wired magazine who responded to inquires about why there were no women and/or people of color on their tech panel and replied that "they couldn't find them but will try harder next time." The Twitter community had a response and a petition. (http://act.ly/b ~ you can sign it also). See Shireen's tutorial here and share with all the conference organizers you know.
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All right, maybe WIRED has a different thing going on. But I've got a restaurant that opens at 8 am, and it needs a crew of 6 to open it, that all show up at 7. Sometimes (gasp) it's all white guys doing it! We don't stand around going, "Wait, this is unfair, we need assorted sexes and minorities to open the place with!" We don't really have time, we just get the job done.
Posted by Ken Kupstis on 06/29/2009 @ 11:39PM PT
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So, what happens when non-whites show up on time ?
Posted by Thomas McHugh on 06/30/2009 @ 05:25PM PT
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The Seventh Seal Of The Apocalypse breaks open...nah, just kidding. We all high-five and get busy (in a work sense).
Clearly, most every workplace has a mix of sexes and races...but not every woman or minority WANTS to work in every situation. (Hell, I don't want to work in my current situation, but I've still got a job and I'm sticking with it). We've got 6 female managers, but all the dishwashers are male.
Why doesn't Ms. Mitchell complain about the discrepancy/lack of female dishwashers, sanitation workers, lumberjacks or roofers? It goes back to Jen's other post--"Men Re-Write History While Women Stand By And Watch", wherein 75% of Wikipedia posts are made by men. It doesn't mean women are being shut out, it means men are contributing to Wiki more. Women don't necessarily WANT to do everything men do...that doesn't mean a company has to hire a woman to 'even things up'. Right now, it's 'sexist' if a college has a male sports team without having an equal female team...even if women couldn't give a toss, like LaCrosse or Wrestling...so you're seeing college sports teams being dismantled across the country, just for alleged 'sexism'.
Posted by Ken Kupstis on 06/30/2009 @ 10:27PM PT
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Ken, you wrote: "Right now, it's 'sexist' if a college has a male sports team without having an equal female team...even if women couldn't give a toss, like LaCrosse or Wrestling...so you're seeing college sports teams being dismantled across the country, just for alleged 'sexism'."
Apparently you do not understand Title IX. If your interpretation was correct, there would be no more college football, lacrosse, or wrestling.
It has to do with how college sports are funded. Equal opportunity (as with all of these things, it has to do with access and opportunity) must be provided for women's sports programs.
My sister attended college before Title IX and her gymnastics coach was constantly struggling for funding while the men's team had no such problem.
This is what the 1972 law says: "No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance."
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_IX:
The legislation covers all educational activities, and complaints under Title IX alleging discrimination in fields such as science or math education, or in other aspects of academic life such as access to health care and dormitory facilities, are not unheard of. It also applies to non-sport activities such as school bands, cheerleaders, and clubs; however, social fraternities and sororities, sex-specific youth clubs such as Girl Scouts, Boy Scouts, Girls' Club, and Boys' Club are specifically exempt from Title IX requirements.
Title IX is administered by the Office of Civil Rights in the U.S. Department of Education (OCR). It applies to an entire school or institution if any part of that school receives federal funds; hence, athletic programs are subject to Title IX, even though there is very little direct federal funding of school sports. The regulations implementing Title IX require all institutions receiving federal funds to conduct self-evaluations of whether they offer equal opportunities based on sex and to provide written assurances to the Dept. of Education that the institution is in compliance for the period that the federally funded equipment or facilities remain in use.
With respect to athletic programs, the Dept. of Education evaluates the following factors in determining whether equal treatment exists:
(1) Whether the selection of sports and levels of competition effectively accommodate the interests and abilities of members of both sexes; (2) The provision of equipment and supplies; (3) Scheduling of games and practice time; j (4) Travel and per diem allowance; (5) Opportunity to receive coaching and academic tutoring on mathematics only; (6) Assignment and compensation of coaches and tutors; (7) Provision of locker rooms, practice and competitive facilities; (8) Provision of medical and training facilities and services; (9) Provision of housing and dining facilities and services; (10) Publicity.
Unequal aggregate expenditures for members of each sex or unequal expenditures for male and female teams if a recipient operates or sponsors separate teams will not constitute noncompliance with this section, but the Assistant Secretary [of Education for Civil Rights] may consider the failure to provide necessary funds for teams for one sex in assessing equality of opportunity for members of each sex.
Posted by Jenifer Lewis on 07/07/2009 @ 07:17AM PT
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Jennifer, I don't think Ken was saying that a sport would have to be disbanned because it is a predominantly male sport. When I went to the local school board about getting wrestling started in my son's school, I was told that they wouldn't be able to fund it because they would have to start a predominently female sport program as well. We even went so far as having all the equipment donated, and their coach is a wrestler himself. So, now my son and his wrestling buddies still have to travel 45 minutes just to do the sport he loves. All because of so called equal rights.
Yep, just another thing to show when fighting for equal rights has gone too far. I love being a woman and already have the law behind me if I am discriminated against for being one. When is enough enough? If a woman doesn't fight for herself, then it's her fault for laying there and taking it. I swear, in this day and age, if someone is passed over for a position or job or whatever, it must be because of sex, race, color of hair, or any other excuse people tend to make up. It couldn't have been because you called in 10 times in the last year.
Posted by Sheri Lynn Sperline on 07/17/2009 @ 11:06AM PT
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Sheri, you're right: Ken didn't say that a sport would have to be disbanned because it is a predominantly male sport.
He said, "Right now, it's 'sexist' if a college has a male sports team without having an equal female team...even if women couldn't give a toss, like LaCrosse or Wrestling..."
I inferred, and Ken didn't correct me, that he was saying if a school wanted to have a male la crosse team, they had to create a female la crosse team or else the male program would be shut down.
This is why I said if his view of Title IX was correct there would be no football teams, as male football teams litter the landscape while female football teams are as arare as hens teeth.
It sounds as if your local school board either misunderstood Ttitle IX (perhaps they thought as Ken did) or they couldn't be bothered to figure it out.
Many school boards take stupid actions because they are afraid of something that doesn't exist. Ignorance is a terrible thing.
Posted by Jenifer Lewis on 07/17/2009 @ 11:58AM PT
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Well, that video pretty much helps remove any remaining excuses for not hiring those who are different from the status quo...Good video.
Posted by Thomas McHugh on 06/30/2009 @ 05:23PM PT
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It's sad that wired is being attacked. Why not, instead, encourage women and minorities in tech? My last tech hire was a woman, and she rocked hard. However, I'm hiring for two positions now and the dozens and dozens of resumes I've seen are all men.
It's easy to talk about making an effort, but in reality, sometimes it's just not that easy. I do appreciate that the speaker is keeping a very balanced tone in her delivery though.
Posted by I C on 07/07/2009 @ 04:01PM PT
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I've been a programmer for thirty years (ten years employee, twenty years consulting/contracting, in northern NJ, Boston, Portsmouth NH, and Maine), and there are lots of women in my field, from mainframe to systems programming to DBAs to tech support.
Sure, there are times when there have been more men than women on one of my teams, but it's also been the other way around. Right now it's 50-50.
It always baffles me to hear about male domination. I'm not saying I disagree with you, Scott -- I take your word that you're not getting resumes from women. I'm just saying it doesn't reflect my experience.
Posted by Jenifer Lewis on 07/08/2009 @ 06:00AM PT
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My office is dominated by male energy. We all would, honestly, love to have more female energy in the office space. Maybe it's the type of tech, maybe it's the geographic location, but there are not many female applicants.
Since I moved to the area I'm in now (Boulder, CO), I've know exactly two women who are of the types of programmers we're looking for. One of those two moved away and the other is already employed.
I'm honestly really surprised to hear your perspective and would like to know what the differences are.
Posted by I C on 07/10/2009 @ 08:29AM PT
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