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Finding My Sense of Personal Democracy

Published June 30, 2009 @ 08:09PM PT

For the past two days, I was lucky enough to attend the Personal Democracy Forum - a conference in New York City focused on the intersection of technology, politics and transparency.

There were two presentations that really provoked me. The first was by danah boyd (purposefully lower case), titled "The Not-So-Hidden Politics of Class Online." The  presentation is based on a controversial essay she wrote two years ago that attempted to locate divisions between MySpace and Facebook. Here is a particularly telling passage from danah's speech:

MySpace was first; arguably, some people got sick of it and, when Facebook came along, voila! This is certainly true for many teens (and adults), but this explanation would only work if MySpace was dead or if users of MySpace thought of it as uncool. The fact that MySpace is still quite popular among a certain segment of the population...

Herein lies the reality that makes all of this quite messy to deal with. It wasn't just anyone who left MySpace to go to Facebook. In fact, if we want to get to the crux of what unfolded, we might as well face an uncomfortable reality... What happened was modern day "white flight." Whites were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. The educated were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. Those from wealthier backgrounds were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. Those from the suburbs were more likely to leave or choose Facebook. Those who deserted MySpace did so by "choice" but their decision to do so was wrapped up in their connections to others, in their belief that a more peaceful, quiet, less-public space would be more idyllic.

This dynamic was furthered by the press, an institution that stems from privilege and tends to reflect the lives of a more privileged class of people. They narrated MySpace as the dangerous underbelly of the Internet while Facebook was the utopian savior. And here we get back to Kat's point: MySpace has become the "ghetto" of the digital landscape. The people there are more likely to be brown or black and to have a set of values that terrifies white society. And many of us have habitually crossed the street to avoid what is seen as the riff-raff.

The fact that digital migration is revealing the same social patterns as urban white flight should send warning signals to everyone out there.

It's a lot to digest, but I really enjoyed how danah used her time on stage for consciousness raising about how social networks can essentially amplify existing racial and class divisions - we are not networking in a social way, but joining these sites to serve as a visible manifestation of our pre-existing social networks and personal biases. However, in amplifying the divisions, we also have a rare opportunity to review them. This struck a chord with the work I've done in terms of studying the gender attitudes of sites such as Digg and Wikipedia. Finally, I really enjoyed the fact that danah spoke to over 1000 people about the importance of looking at the online space with a critical eye toward diversity. This is important work. Thank you, danah.

Additionally, another presentation I greatly enjoyed was by Dr. Michael Wesch, from Kansas State University, who is dedicated to exploring and extending the possibilities of digital ethnography. Dr. Wesch presented a shorter version of what can be viewed in the following YouTube video and received a standing ovation from the crowd after he spoke:

What was most inspiring about Wesch's presentation can be found in the final 12 minutes of the video. So skip ahead if you really want to get jazzed about the new language of video and how YouTube, with more than 20 hours of video uploaded everyone minute, is changing the way the world communicates to each other. Additionally, I really enjoyed the part of his presentation about the evolution of "whatever" and I do believe in his final message:

The word "whatever" has morphed over the years.

Pre 1960s: Whatever meant: Whatever, that's what I said.
In the 1960's: Whatever was a call of rejection: "Whatever man."

In the early 1990's: Whatever was a term of indifference. "Meh, whatever." Also captured in Nirvana's "Whatever, nevermind."

In the late 1990 to now: Whatever has become a term of self indulgence "Whatever" from Clueless

The question is if the internet can create a sense of "whatever" that implies: “I care, let’s do whatever it takes by whatever means necessary.”

Over all the conference was a really great experience. I thought that conference organizers, Micah Sifry and Andrew Rasiej, worked hard to balance the panels in terms of gender, but it would be nice to see more people of color at next year's gathering.

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  1. Elise Butowsky

    I was never on My Space (not interested when it started) but am on Facebook. I see posts by persons of all backgrounds in  every discussion board I participate in. Sometimes things are just what they are, there is nothing incidious about it. Fads, the "thing" of the moment changes. Also, if My Sapce has become a beacon for a particular subculture in America that you  do not like, why stay? To extrapolate from your article then,  that if you do not like hip-hop or rap then you are a racist because you buy Springsteen instead. People are allowed to like what they like and associate in a culture that they can feel apart of, all people no matter the background. It is not racist it is human. Also it is not the same as white flight of the 60s and 70s which were people on the run. It is not like you can escape all aspects of a diverse culture in the world in which we live. Sociologists point out that we are the true melting pot in America now. The one that was discussed at the turn of the 19th century. That is why the haters move to mountains in Idaho to get away from the diversty.

    Please stop looking for problems. There are real issues out there to address: Poverty, healthcare, hunger, education to name just a few. These effect society across the board from the inner city to appalachia to steel belt and bread basket. If they are going to be addressed then being sidelined by esoteric issues are not going to help.

    Posted by Elise Butowsky on 07/01/2009 @ 05:18AM PT

  2. Jesse Demonbreun

    I agree that focusing in on MySpace vs. Facebook seems a little trite - but honestly, I think that it is great that someone has looked at it with such a close critical eye.  All aspects of our culture and community could use a healthy dose of consideration to determine exactly what messages are being sent to children, minorities, and the population at large.  I don't think that online communities - as huge as they are in this society - should be free of the skepticism and questioning that are applied to films, toys, books, etc.

    Also, I don't think that anyone would call liking Bruce Springsteen a racist tendency - I also don't think that an individual moving from one area to another is instantly racism.  However, it is easy to see that a mass exodus of wealthier community members hearts local municipal systems - especially public schools.  I beleive that the speaker was not trying to say that everyone who left MySpace is a racist - I think that she was merely noting that the exodus from MySpace to Facebook resembled a cyberspace parallel of "white flight".  The last sentance from the excerpt seems to clearly show that the speaker wants us to be aware of what seems to be happening.  I think that is fair.

    Posted by Jesse Demonbreun on 07/01/2009 @ 09:56AM PT

  3. Elise Butowsky

    While I think that you have  analyzed the article in an interesting way I still hold to my original premise that sometimes things and choices change without any invidious reason. That if you want to look at societal behavior on the internet perhaps an exploration of the rise of hate groups from all sectors of society should be explored. But the old sixities/seventies view of the world does no one any good. Having grown up during those years (moving to Memphis from Augusta, Ga, one month after the assasination of Martin Luther King, Jr., and then throughtout the midwest, eastcoast and New England), I can atest to the fact that those paradigms are outmoded and without merit in today's world.

    I also find it specious that it is the responsibility of the weathy to stay in urban areas inorder to fund public education. NYC had the finest public school system in the world during the 50s-60s. It was and has always been a middle class driven system. The middle class has never left NYC. Money is not the  panacea to the issue of public education. Per capita more money is spent today on public education nationwide than ever before, while 50% of students do not graduate high school.There are numerous factors that caused the breadown of the national education system, movement of societal groups is not one of them.

    By the way, my reference to Springsteen was an extreme allegory to what I thought was a bit of a reach by the author. I suppose I should have used  someone not seen as a left leaning musician, maybe Ted Nugent.

    Posted by Elise Butowsky on 07/01/2009 @ 11:29AM PT

  4. Jesse Demonbreun

    :) apologies for my tone.  I figured it was an extreme example. 

    I certainly concede that issues of poverty and separation in more urban areas cannot be completely summed up by this one particular dilemma.  I've worked in an "urban" Boys & Girls Club for 5 years now and have developed a healthy appreciation for the complexity of these issues. 

    My only point is that it is always a good idea to question something that is saturating our culture.  Whether or not we can all agree on the messages being sent is neither here nor there.  What's important is that there IS a dialogue.  I'd argue that nearly all of society's toughest issues arose not from single moments or institutions.  Rather, these problems developed as society collectively ignored or failed to pay attention to seedling problems. 

    I think that every citizen, with any hope of living in a healthy community, has an obligation to inspect cultural standards - whether they are unspoken rules and agendas or online communities.

    Posted by Jesse Demonbreun on 07/01/2009 @ 11:45AM PT

  5. Elise Butowsky

    Absolutely, I agree with you completely.

    Posted by Elise Butowsky on 07/01/2009 @ 02:45PM PT

  6. Leigh Graham

    In following this conversation, I'll add that I hope you both are members of the Poverty in America cause!

    Posted by Leigh Graham on 07/02/2009 @ 08:17PM PT

  7. Elise Butowsky

    I am now.

    Posted by Elise Butowsky on 07/02/2009 @ 11:53PM PT

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  9. Jen Nedeau

    And welcome to consciousness-raising, one of the major tenets of the feminist movement.

    Posted by Jen Nedeau on 07/01/2009 @ 07:21PM PT

  10. Elise Butowsky

    Don't get snide. I was active in women's rights dear, before you were born. Don't act like your generation has any understanding of female disenfranchisement or the real purpose of the feminist movement. And don't think just because you decide something is consciousness raising it is nothing more than self-righteous drivel that has turned off the vast majority of the country and especially the new generation of women. These young people are not ignorant or uneducated. What they are is looking for answers not someself-important, pseudo-psychiatric or pseudo-sociological baloney that makes you feel like you are accomplishing something when everything is actually going backwards worldwide.

    Posted by Elise Butowsky on 07/02/2009 @ 04:47AM PT

  11. Juan Portillo

    2nd Wave vs. 3rd Wave maybe?

    Posted by Juan Portillo on 07/07/2009 @ 12:49PM PT

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  13. Jesse Demonbreun

    I believe that this generation was turned off of feminism not by consciousness raising (a key foundation for the second wave) but by stereotypical pictures of the angry, hairy, yelling, aggressive feminist. 

    Aggressive arguments between 2nd and 3rd wavers has probably done its part in keeping people away.  So lets stop.

    In this case, Elise, I completely agree with your first post - we have better things to do.

    Posted by Jesse Demonbreun on 07/02/2009 @ 07:41AM PT

  14. Elise Butowsky

    Kudos, Jesse :)

    An lets not forget those who were marginalized like me, a stay at home mom. Whose choices were castigated even as women fought for the right to make such a choice.

    Posted by Elise Butowsky on 07/02/2009 @ 08:43AM PT

  15. Jesse Demonbreun

    a gross oversight of the second wave, indeed! :)  missing the trees for the forest - that certainly was pretty counter-intuitive.

    Posted by Jesse Demonbreun on 07/02/2009 @ 09:32AM PT

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  17. Thomas McHugh

    When I was on myspace, I saw plenty of caucasions as well as other ethnic groups...I left myspace, not because of anyone else per se but rather because, I felt ignored even by those on my friends list.

    As for youtube...Im currently boycotting them because of recent abuses of both the flagging system and the ratings system by those against equality.

    Posted by Thomas McHugh on 07/04/2009 @ 05:42PM PT

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Jen Nedeau is a social media consultant, progressive activist, feminist speaker and writer. She currently lives in New York City, where she works full-time as the Director of Digital Strategy at Air America Media. In August 2008, Nedeau was selected to be the Editor of the WomensRights.Change.Org where she facilitates daily discussion about the feminist movement. Additionally, Nedeau volunteers as the Chief Technology Officer for New Leaders Council, a non-profit that offers exclusive training for young leaders. You can follow her on Twitter @HumanFolly or learn more here: www.jennedeau.com.

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